Sunday, June 1, 2008

plan b from techcrunch.com

Plan B
Steve Gillmor
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In the past, you could measure Microsoft’s success by others’ weakness. This time it’s different. Google rolls out a five-pronged disruption to the smart phone, the Visual Studio developer base, social media, offline storage, and Webtone pricing - and it bolsters Ray Ozzie’s hand. With a month to go, Bill Gates’ “transition” from 80-20 to 20-80 has Redmond shaking.

The old games just aren’t working. Windows chief Steve Sinofsky spends a ridiculous half hour fending off CNet’s Ina Fried with zero information on Windows 7 and way too much repetition of the purpose of the interview: to discuss the process by which information will be given out in the future. We get it, Steve. You’re not telling the media anything except the ground rules for what you’re not telling the media. Thanks for the heads up.

In classic media terms, this is a Microsoft death spiral story. Vista sucks, Apple market share grows, the PC/Mac ads win awards. iPhone 2 approaches, Android looks cool and competitive, the AT&T WiFi takedown looks like it’s spreading to the Blackberry, the N95, and maybe, just maybe, the other carriers. The Google Web Toolkit harnesses Java developers, the Eclipse dev environment, a growing number of APIs and Javascript libraries hosted on Google servers, and Amazon-slashing AppEngine pricing. Developers, developers, developers.

But each chink in the old Microsoft armor cuts two ways - as a minor glitch in the continuing revenue power of the IT-controlled Windows and Office upgrade path, and a strategic boost for Ozzie and his Mesh strategy. When you hear the open crowd attack the notion of trusting Microsoft to route our data a la Hailstorm and its Passport albatross, you’re also hearing the first stages in acceptance of the new Microsoft mantra.

Mesh abstracts devices and operating systems into objects that can be coordinated and orchestrated to deliver the appearance of a single or composite device. That’s the guiding principle behind virtualization, which permits applications to address these virtual devices as single entities while spreading computational load across machines, domains, and business processes. When you hear people both outside and inside attack Mesh as a synchronization technology, you are hearing political spin about a strategy that has not yet been fully implemented or acknowledged.

From a technical perspective, the largest chunk left to be finished is affinity grouping - taking the atomized identity and social metadata and organizing micro-communities that can act as power brokers in the new information model Mesh creates. From a political perspective, these groups will quickly produce revenue in much higher proportion to the broader less targeted audiences of existing clouds. As that power is increasingly parceled out via Silverlight to the enterprise crowd, Windows and Office become services to be maintained much in the same way that IBM uses open source via its Global Services group.

Key to the transition is the interactive two-way nature of the communication services of the Mesh and Google platforms. Google collects behavioral data from Gmail, Apps, and search, but increasingly the roundtrip between Gchat and Google Reader is producing the high value signals (gestures) that fuel affinity group formation and targeted feedback loops. Mesh atomizes the Google, Facebook, and other social constructs into virtual devices that can be combined from the ground up to attack viral opportunities as they emerge.

If that sounds like Twitter, that’s because Mesh is Twitter’s Plan B. In recent weeks, we’ve seen Twitter quickly come to terms with the underlying problem of their viral success, and particular the unique but transcendent power of swarm characteristics that the (mis)use of the service has created. The very real time XMPP stream that proves irresistible to Twitter power users and its “track” conversation enabler are at the heart of what Ray Ozzie and his team discovered when they first began testing Groove . Mesh leverages that emergent behavior as the central construct of a virtual device router.

The conversation with Twitter and its satellites FriendFeed (listen to the recent Gillmor Gang with the FriendFeed founders), Twhirl, and to some degree Facebook, in recent weeks has really been about Twitter’s sole asset: its people. It’s taken a few punches to the middle to soften things up enough to encourage more transparency on Twitter’s part, but now that the dialogue appears engaged via the media, the real work needs to begin in earnest with Twitter’s owners in the Track cloud. Because Track requires the availability in real time of a dynamic swarm of affinity members, that service makes maximum use of the system, which still can’t deliver it.

Twitter’s problem, then, is to convince its users that they will restore that feature. Those that reject that as important can remain secure knowing virtually every Twitter clone can provide the basic commoditized services they require. In other words, they don’t need Twitter, just Twitter-like functionality. Those who are addicted to Track and real time services know otherwise. In aggregate, as affinity groups, they derive much greater yield from their behavior and micro-cast contract offerings than the rest of the marketplace - better resolution of information streams, increased economic clout, and the Darwinian favoritism of swarm resolution over less dynamic and more static problem solving.

Plan B is not for Twitter, or even Microsoft; it’s for us to do. If Twitter execs respond directly to the marketplace with straight talk, we’ll likely stay with them. But it is incumbent upon us to begin Plan B now, by beginning the process of harvesting our Track/Follow clouds and readying them for the day when other more robust services arrive. Starting now, we use Twitter behavior that reinforces core constructs (140 characters, TinyUrl pointers, Track, asynchronous follow) while discouraging features such as @replies which encourage non-real time use.

Syntax that records conversational techniques needs to be baked out across our affinity groups, for example dropping not just the @ sign but the Twitter name as well after the first citation, only reading upon a context switch. With XMPP and Track down, we have no way to archive via Gmail, but Summize and FriendFeed offer workarounds. If FriendFeed quickly implements XMPP as we discussed on Friday’s Gillmor Gang (you decide whether that will happen) we will have some redundancy on our side sooner than later. Plan B makes sense for more than just tactical Is Twitter Up reasons, but also because Google has similar services available. Adapting and morphing the Gmail/Gchat/Greader tool set to emulate the core Track model is doable, but requires some incentive for the company to move up the stack.

Google’s recent efforts suggest they understand the reality here, that this effort will not be about damaging Microsoft but closing the sale with their users to allow them legitimate trustworthy access to all the data they are collecting. On Microsoft’s side, Twitter needs to end the rivalry between Exchange and SQL Server on the delivery side, and (to be blunt about it) put Office and Windows in their place down the stack. And every time Google announces another disruptive chapter in their creation of the collaborative social network, the champagne flows in Ozzie’s group. Welcome to Plan B.

Wednesday, May 28, 2008

random skype call

one way voice and the other way type -- had to deal with phones call and admin stuff


[8:54:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ccebook.cn
[8:55:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you can get bws there
[8:55:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[8:55:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you can talk i type
[8:55:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am going to create a blog now
[8:55:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so you can read it
[8:55:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yes i have work
[8:55:41 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but i gotta make calls
[8:55:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hella calls
[8:55:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: vn gov is gay cause they wanna notarize my police check
[8:56:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and degrees
[8:56:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: cause people sleeping
[8:56:11 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i do
[8:56:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but no internet in my room
[8:56:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so...i am in a classroom inside a house
[8:56:34 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and people sleeping downstairs
[8:56:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: basically
[8:56:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am poor
[8:56:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and i am going to bum some internet too
[8:56:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and cable tv
[8:56:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's hella good there
[8:57:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they got japanese, korean, chinkanese, english, french, german, hella shit
[8:57:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what's crackin on your side of town?
[8:57:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hot?
[8:57:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bitch it's hella hot in my place
[8:58:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i got 3 fans and it's still hot
[8:58:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in fact i am runnign a scientific experiment in my room now
[8:58:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: my room has hella windows on one wall
[8:58:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and no curtains
[8:58:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nothing to cover
[8:58:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so it's like a greenhouse in my room
[8:58:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am gonig to bum curtains from my landlord's student
[8:59:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: who apparently has a nice curtain to spare soon
[8:59:17 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but now i want to test how effective "curtains" would be
[8:59:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in economics we call that substitution
[8:59:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and my substitute is....
[8:59:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: are....
[8:59:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: garbage bags
[8:59:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and no i don't
[9:00:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no a/c
[9:00:17 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i spent 30 min cutting bags and taping it to the wall
[9:00:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and it smells like plastic in my room
[9:00:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i open 2 boxs of dove soapbars
[9:00:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and placed it in front of the fan
[9:00:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: to hopefully get rid of the plastic smell
[9:01:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: there was a hot chick that just walked upstairs
[9:01:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i wonder who that is
[9:01:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but i felt like i was covering a lot of broken car windows
[9:01:34 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what?
[9:01:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in a house
[9:01:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 5 stories
[9:01:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4
[9:01:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no, not a ho house
[9:02:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: across the hall they got hella people there
[9:02:15 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: rented out
[9:02:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the...3rd flr is rented out
[9:02:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the 2nd flr classrooms
[9:02:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bottom kitchen
[9:02:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hall for motobike
[9:02:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4th flr landlord and kids
[9:02:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i'll get some pics
[9:02:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and 5th to hang shit
[9:03:06 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and hella dog shit on the 5th
[9:03:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and there's dog piss in front of my door today
[9:03:27 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they don't like me
[9:03:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 3 of them
[9:03:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i call the white one breakfast, the brown/white lunch, and the black one dinner
[9:04:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4th
[9:04:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 5th is balcony
[9:04:47 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or roof
[9:04:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: with top
[9:04:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not balcony
[9:05:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea they inside
[9:05:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nope
[9:05:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i should take a shower too
[9:06:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you bet your ass
[9:06:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hot water
[9:06:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the one thing bout here
[9:06:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: is that they got the electric water heater built in
[9:06:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and they don't heat the shit in a tank
[9:07:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so it's hot water on demand
[9:07:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and forever
[9:07:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:07:26 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:07:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but there it goes...
[9:07:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water ---> heat --> tank ---> showerhead
[9:08:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but the heat is gone when the tank is empty
[9:08:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: here it goes water ---> tank upstairs 50,000 liter ----> heat ---> showerhead
[9:08:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or heat in device ---> head
[9:08:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: like 15 min
[9:08:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: usually
[9:08:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's nice
[9:09:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: better than america
[9:09:18 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:09:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: big big
[9:09:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nope
[9:09:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not yet
[9:10:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i know
[9:10:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i don't even have to go across the street
[9:10:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but across the hall baby
[9:10:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: actually on my street, ho van hue
[9:10:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they got HELLA hour hotels
[9:10:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's like 3 hours 100.000vnd
[9:10:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and.... 60.000vnd 1 hr
[9:10:54 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's crazy
[9:11:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 16k = 1
[9:11:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:11:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 100.000 is 100k
[9:11:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's asia
[9:11:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: dipshit
[9:11:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ?
[9:11:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: drink waht?
[9:11:54 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: don't know what that is
[9:12:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:12:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you could
[9:12:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but you really don't want one here
[9:12:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: maybe euro
[9:12:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: us
[9:13:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: singapore
[9:13:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing/shang
[9:13:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what?
[9:13:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not lately
[9:13:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: filly me in
[9:14:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what happened with kobe?
[9:14:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh really
[9:14:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:14:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: firewall ain't bad here
[9:15:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: just slow internet
[9:15:51 AM] Tinsum Ching says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DfhO23NIRP0
[9:15:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: check out....
[9:16:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: kennylovesvietnam.blogspot.com
[9:16:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: youtube don't work here cause internet is slow
[9:16:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: maybe the gov't finds my content unacceptable
[9:17:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: man these two guys in the same room within an hour are bringing bitches in
[9:17:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or them bitches live here and i didn't notice
[9:17:26 AM] Tinsum Ching says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QBJZXyfLrpU
[9:17:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: youtube don't work here
[9:17:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: internet bad
[9:17:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: outside, i really don't know
[9:18:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea i know
[9:18:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: should have mcd here
[9:18:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i have a bathroom
[9:18:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but no bunkbed
[9:18:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh yea
[9:18:41 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bk is good?
[9:18:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's gay
[9:18:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i had kfc to today
[9:18:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: fuck bk that's bs
[9:19:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's bad market research
[9:19:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and business development
[9:19:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh yea
[9:19:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: duo shao qian?
[9:19:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yi ge meaL
[9:19:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 23rmb?
[9:19:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bu cuo!
[9:19:56 AM] Tinsum Ching says: 28
[9:20:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: wait...
[9:20:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's hella $
[9:20:15 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's 4 bucks
[9:20:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: fuck
[9:20:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i dropped 48k on kfc
[9:20:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's 3usd
[9:20:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they hand you change with 2 hands
[9:20:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: zinger baby
[9:21:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:21:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: um dpeends
[9:21:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: if it's expensive shop
[9:21:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hell yea
[9:21:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but otherwise no
[9:21:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no kidding, i would agree
[9:21:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but only with that one inear the dorm
[9:21:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that was the only one i went to
[9:21:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:21:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: gook town
[9:22:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: never went to one here
[9:22:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea prob
[9:22:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i hear the backpack area is pretty dirty
[9:22:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in fact very from what i hear
[9:23:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: where all the fucking foreigners are
[9:23:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: main district
[9:23:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and the backpack area is this triange too
[9:23:47 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: if you draw it out on the map
[9:24:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water here?
[9:24:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: um...hard to say
[9:24:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i think overall it's better here
[9:24:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the water in china is just bad
[9:24:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no other way to put it
[9:25:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you could drink rainwater here in the coutryside
[9:25:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not sure bout saigon
[9:25:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but it ain't too bad....
[9:25:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i don't know
[9:25:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hydro
[9:25:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: some coal
[9:25:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i forget
[9:25:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hella yea coal in china
[9:25:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not the same degree
[9:26:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: china is just dirty, seriously
[9:26:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing is a horrible place to have the olypmics
[9:26:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea hk
[9:26:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water where?
[9:26:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: shanghai might be ok for some of the games
[9:27:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: shandong?
[9:27:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:27:08 AM] Tinsum Ching says: shangtong
[9:27:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the yellow river runs off there
[9:27:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that whole area is pretty banged up
[9:27:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hope it all goes well
[9:27:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: otherwise china's reputation is going to get damaged bad
[9:28:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: wouldn't want to see that
[9:28:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:28:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the nest is ugly man
[9:28:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and it's not that big
[9:28:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: engineering standpoint, it might be impressive
[9:28:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: dbut i don't know better
[9:28:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i say it's ugly
[9:29:06 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i ain't bashing
[9:29:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i love china
[9:29:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: government has done a good job and bad
[9:29:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no gov't is perfect
[9:30:13 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ok i need to make a call to berkeley
[9:30:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ignore what i say
[9:30:26 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am using 2 voip
[9:30:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so you can still talk to me
[9:30:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but you will hear me talk to someone else
[9:30:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: opivy.com
[9:30:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: opivy
[9:30:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: poivy
[9:30:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it thinks i am in america
[9:31:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so free calls to the us
[9:31:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: good question
[9:31:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing is different
[9:31:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i like it at night in bejing more
[9:32:09 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's not crazy
[9:32:19 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i tihnk so
[9:32:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but depends on where u r
[9:32:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you gotta force yourself in
[9:32:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: talk to chinese people bout it
[9:32:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:32:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: take the subway
[9:33:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: midnight
[9:33:13 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:33:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: gotta register your american number
[9:33:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i did that a long time ago
[9:33:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: cell
[9:34:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:34:19 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: too cheap to buy a/c
[9:34:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 500 for a good one
[9:34:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: don't talk too loud
[9:34:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 1 min

random skype call

one way voice and the other way type -- had to deal with phones call and admin stuff


[8:54:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ccebook.cn
[8:55:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you can get bws there
[8:55:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[8:55:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you can talk i type
[8:55:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am going to create a blog now
[8:55:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so you can read it
[8:55:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yes i have work
[8:55:41 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but i gotta make calls
[8:55:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hella calls
[8:55:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: vn gov is gay cause they wanna notarize my police check
[8:56:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and degrees
[8:56:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: cause people sleeping
[8:56:11 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i do
[8:56:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but no internet in my room
[8:56:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so...i am in a classroom inside a house
[8:56:34 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and people sleeping downstairs
[8:56:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: basically
[8:56:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am poor
[8:56:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and i am going to bum some internet too
[8:56:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and cable tv
[8:56:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's hella good there
[8:57:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they got japanese, korean, chinkanese, english, french, german, hella shit
[8:57:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what's crackin on your side of town?
[8:57:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hot?
[8:57:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bitch it's hella hot in my place
[8:58:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i got 3 fans and it's still hot
[8:58:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in fact i am runnign a scientific experiment in my room now
[8:58:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: my room has hella windows on one wall
[8:58:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and no curtains
[8:58:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nothing to cover
[8:58:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so it's like a greenhouse in my room
[8:58:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am gonig to bum curtains from my landlord's student
[8:59:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: who apparently has a nice curtain to spare soon
[8:59:17 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but now i want to test how effective "curtains" would be
[8:59:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in economics we call that substitution
[8:59:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and my substitute is....
[8:59:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: are....
[8:59:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: garbage bags
[8:59:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and no i don't
[9:00:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no a/c
[9:00:17 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i spent 30 min cutting bags and taping it to the wall
[9:00:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and it smells like plastic in my room
[9:00:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i open 2 boxs of dove soapbars
[9:00:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and placed it in front of the fan
[9:00:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: to hopefully get rid of the plastic smell
[9:01:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: there was a hot chick that just walked upstairs
[9:01:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i wonder who that is
[9:01:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but i felt like i was covering a lot of broken car windows
[9:01:34 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what?
[9:01:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in a house
[9:01:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 5 stories
[9:01:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4
[9:01:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no, not a ho house
[9:02:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: across the hall they got hella people there
[9:02:15 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: rented out
[9:02:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the...3rd flr is rented out
[9:02:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the 2nd flr classrooms
[9:02:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bottom kitchen
[9:02:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hall for motobike
[9:02:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4th flr landlord and kids
[9:02:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i'll get some pics
[9:02:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and 5th to hang shit
[9:03:06 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and hella dog shit on the 5th
[9:03:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and there's dog piss in front of my door today
[9:03:27 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they don't like me
[9:03:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 3 of them
[9:03:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i call the white one breakfast, the brown/white lunch, and the black one dinner
[9:04:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4th
[9:04:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 5th is balcony
[9:04:47 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or roof
[9:04:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: with top
[9:04:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not balcony
[9:05:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea they inside
[9:05:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nope
[9:05:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i should take a shower too
[9:06:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you bet your ass
[9:06:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hot water
[9:06:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the one thing bout here
[9:06:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: is that they got the electric water heater built in
[9:06:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and they don't heat the shit in a tank
[9:07:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so it's hot water on demand
[9:07:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and forever
[9:07:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:07:26 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:07:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but there it goes...
[9:07:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water ---> heat --> tank ---> showerhead
[9:08:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but the heat is gone when the tank is empty
[9:08:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: here it goes water ---> tank upstairs 50,000 liter ----> heat ---> showerhead
[9:08:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or heat in device ---> head
[9:08:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: like 15 min
[9:08:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: usually
[9:08:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's nice
[9:09:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: better than america
[9:09:18 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:09:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: big big
[9:09:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nope
[9:09:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not yet
[9:10:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i know
[9:10:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i don't even have to go across the street
[9:10:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but across the hall baby
[9:10:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: actually on my street, ho van hue
[9:10:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they got HELLA hour hotels
[9:10:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's like 3 hours 100.000vnd
[9:10:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and.... 60.000vnd 1 hr
[9:10:54 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's crazy
[9:11:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 16k = 1
[9:11:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:11:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 100.000 is 100k
[9:11:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's asia
[9:11:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: dipshit
[9:11:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ?
[9:11:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: drink waht?
[9:11:54 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: don't know what that is
[9:12:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:12:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you could
[9:12:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but you really don't want one here
[9:12:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: maybe euro
[9:12:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: us
[9:13:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: singapore
[9:13:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing/shang
[9:13:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what?
[9:13:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not lately
[9:13:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: filly me in
[9:14:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what happened with kobe?
[9:14:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh really
[9:14:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:14:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: firewall ain't bad here
[9:15:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: just slow internet
[9:15:51 AM] Tinsum Ching says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DfhO23NIRP0
[9:15:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: check out....
[9:16:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: kennylovesvietnam.blogspot.com
[9:16:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: youtube don't work here cause internet is slow
[9:16:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: maybe the gov't finds my content unacceptable
[9:17:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: man these two guys in the same room within an hour are bringing bitches in
[9:17:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or them bitches live here and i didn't notice
[9:17:26 AM] Tinsum Ching says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QBJZXyfLrpU
[9:17:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: youtube don't work here
[9:17:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: internet bad
[9:17:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: outside, i really don't know
[9:18:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea i know
[9:18:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: should have mcd here
[9:18:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i have a bathroom
[9:18:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but no bunkbed
[9:18:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh yea
[9:18:41 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bk is good?
[9:18:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's gay
[9:18:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i had kfc to today
[9:18:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: fuck bk that's bs
[9:19:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's bad market research
[9:19:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and business development
[9:19:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh yea
[9:19:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: duo shao qian?
[9:19:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yi ge meaL
[9:19:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 23rmb?
[9:19:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bu cuo!
[9:19:56 AM] Tinsum Ching says: 28
[9:20:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: wait...
[9:20:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's hella $
[9:20:15 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's 4 bucks
[9:20:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: fuck
[9:20:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i dropped 48k on kfc
[9:20:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's 3usd
[9:20:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they hand you change with 2 hands
[9:20:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: zinger baby
[9:21:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:21:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: um dpeends
[9:21:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: if it's expensive shop
[9:21:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hell yea
[9:21:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but otherwise no
[9:21:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no kidding, i would agree
[9:21:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but only with that one inear the dorm
[9:21:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that was the only one i went to
[9:21:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:21:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: gook town
[9:22:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: never went to one here
[9:22:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea prob
[9:22:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i hear the backpack area is pretty dirty
[9:22:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in fact very from what i hear
[9:23:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: where all the fucking foreigners are
[9:23:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: main district
[9:23:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and the backpack area is this triange too
[9:23:47 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: if you draw it out on the map
[9:24:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water here?
[9:24:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: um...hard to say
[9:24:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i think overall it's better here
[9:24:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the water in china is just bad
[9:24:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no other way to put it
[9:25:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you could drink rainwater here in the coutryside
[9:25:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not sure bout saigon
[9:25:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but it ain't too bad....
[9:25:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i don't know
[9:25:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hydro
[9:25:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: some coal
[9:25:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i forget
[9:25:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hella yea coal in china
[9:25:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not the same degree
[9:26:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: china is just dirty, seriously
[9:26:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing is a horrible place to have the olypmics
[9:26:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea hk
[9:26:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water where?
[9:26:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: shanghai might be ok for some of the games
[9:27:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: shandong?
[9:27:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:27:08 AM] Tinsum Ching says: shangtong
[9:27:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the yellow river runs off there
[9:27:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that whole area is pretty banged up
[9:27:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hope it all goes well
[9:27:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: otherwise china's reputation is going to get damaged bad
[9:28:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: wouldn't want to see that
[9:28:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:28:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the nest is ugly man
[9:28:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and it's not that big
[9:28:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: engineering standpoint, it might be impressive
[9:28:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: dbut i don't know better
[9:28:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i say it's ugly
[9:29:06 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i ain't bashing
[9:29:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i love china
[9:29:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: government has done a good job and bad
[9:29:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no gov't is perfect
[9:30:13 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ok i need to make a call to berkeley
[9:30:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ignore what i say
[9:30:26 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am using 2 voip
[9:30:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so you can still talk to me
[9:30:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but you will hear me talk to someone else
[9:30:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: opivy.com
[9:30:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: opivy
[9:30:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: poivy
[9:30:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it thinks i am in america
[9:31:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so free calls to the us
[9:31:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: good question
[9:31:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing is different
[9:31:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i like it at night in bejing more
[9:32:09 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's not crazy
[9:32:19 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i tihnk so
[9:32:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but depends on where u r
[9:32:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you gotta force yourself in
[9:32:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: talk to chinese people bout it
[9:32:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:32:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: take the subway
[9:33:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: midnight
[9:33:13 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:33:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: gotta register your american number
[9:33:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i did that a long time ago
[9:33:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: cell
[9:34:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:34:19 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: too cheap to buy a/c
[9:34:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 500 for a good one
[9:34:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: don't talk too loud
[9:34:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 1 min

random skype call

one way voice and the other way type -- had to deal with phones call and admin stuff


[8:54:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ccebook.cn
[8:55:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you can get bws there
[8:55:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[8:55:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you can talk i type
[8:55:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am going to create a blog now
[8:55:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so you can read it
[8:55:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yes i have work
[8:55:41 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but i gotta make calls
[8:55:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hella calls
[8:55:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: vn gov is gay cause they wanna notarize my police check
[8:56:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and degrees
[8:56:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: cause people sleeping
[8:56:11 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i do
[8:56:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but no internet in my room
[8:56:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so...i am in a classroom inside a house
[8:56:34 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and people sleeping downstairs
[8:56:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: basically
[8:56:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am poor
[8:56:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and i am going to bum some internet too
[8:56:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and cable tv
[8:56:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's hella good there
[8:57:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they got japanese, korean, chinkanese, english, french, german, hella shit
[8:57:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what's crackin on your side of town?
[8:57:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hot?
[8:57:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bitch it's hella hot in my place
[8:58:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i got 3 fans and it's still hot
[8:58:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in fact i am runnign a scientific experiment in my room now
[8:58:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: my room has hella windows on one wall
[8:58:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and no curtains
[8:58:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nothing to cover
[8:58:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so it's like a greenhouse in my room
[8:58:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am gonig to bum curtains from my landlord's student
[8:59:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: who apparently has a nice curtain to spare soon
[8:59:17 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but now i want to test how effective "curtains" would be
[8:59:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in economics we call that substitution
[8:59:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and my substitute is....
[8:59:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: are....
[8:59:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: garbage bags
[8:59:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and no i don't
[9:00:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no a/c
[9:00:17 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i spent 30 min cutting bags and taping it to the wall
[9:00:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and it smells like plastic in my room
[9:00:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i open 2 boxs of dove soapbars
[9:00:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and placed it in front of the fan
[9:00:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: to hopefully get rid of the plastic smell
[9:01:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: there was a hot chick that just walked upstairs
[9:01:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i wonder who that is
[9:01:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but i felt like i was covering a lot of broken car windows
[9:01:34 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what?
[9:01:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in a house
[9:01:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 5 stories
[9:01:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4
[9:01:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no, not a ho house
[9:02:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: across the hall they got hella people there
[9:02:15 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: rented out
[9:02:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the...3rd flr is rented out
[9:02:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the 2nd flr classrooms
[9:02:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bottom kitchen
[9:02:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hall for motobike
[9:02:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4th flr landlord and kids
[9:02:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i'll get some pics
[9:02:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and 5th to hang shit
[9:03:06 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and hella dog shit on the 5th
[9:03:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and there's dog piss in front of my door today
[9:03:27 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they don't like me
[9:03:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 3 of them
[9:03:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i call the white one breakfast, the brown/white lunch, and the black one dinner
[9:04:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 4th
[9:04:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 5th is balcony
[9:04:47 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or roof
[9:04:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: with top
[9:04:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not balcony
[9:05:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea they inside
[9:05:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nope
[9:05:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i should take a shower too
[9:06:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you bet your ass
[9:06:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hot water
[9:06:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the one thing bout here
[9:06:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: is that they got the electric water heater built in
[9:06:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and they don't heat the shit in a tank
[9:07:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so it's hot water on demand
[9:07:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and forever
[9:07:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:07:26 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:07:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but there it goes...
[9:07:49 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water ---> heat --> tank ---> showerhead
[9:08:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but the heat is gone when the tank is empty
[9:08:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: here it goes water ---> tank upstairs 50,000 liter ----> heat ---> showerhead
[9:08:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or heat in device ---> head
[9:08:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: like 15 min
[9:08:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: usually
[9:08:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's nice
[9:09:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: better than america
[9:09:18 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:09:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: big big
[9:09:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: nope
[9:09:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not yet
[9:10:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i know
[9:10:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i don't even have to go across the street
[9:10:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but across the hall baby
[9:10:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: actually on my street, ho van hue
[9:10:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they got HELLA hour hotels
[9:10:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's like 3 hours 100.000vnd
[9:10:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and.... 60.000vnd 1 hr
[9:10:54 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's crazy
[9:11:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 16k = 1
[9:11:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:11:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 100.000 is 100k
[9:11:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's asia
[9:11:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: dipshit
[9:11:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ?
[9:11:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: drink waht?
[9:11:54 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: don't know what that is
[9:12:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:12:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you could
[9:12:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but you really don't want one here
[9:12:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: maybe euro
[9:12:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: us
[9:13:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: singapore
[9:13:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing/shang
[9:13:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what?
[9:13:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not lately
[9:13:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: filly me in
[9:14:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: what happened with kobe?
[9:14:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh really
[9:14:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no
[9:14:58 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: firewall ain't bad here
[9:15:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: just slow internet
[9:15:51 AM] Tinsum Ching says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=DfhO23NIRP0
[9:15:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: check out....
[9:16:01 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: kennylovesvietnam.blogspot.com
[9:16:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: youtube don't work here cause internet is slow
[9:16:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: maybe the gov't finds my content unacceptable
[9:17:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: man these two guys in the same room within an hour are bringing bitches in
[9:17:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: or them bitches live here and i didn't notice
[9:17:26 AM] Tinsum Ching says: http://youtube.com/watch?v=QBJZXyfLrpU
[9:17:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: youtube don't work here
[9:17:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: internet bad
[9:17:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: outside, i really don't know
[9:18:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea i know
[9:18:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: should have mcd here
[9:18:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i have a bathroom
[9:18:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but no bunkbed
[9:18:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh yea
[9:18:41 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bk is good?
[9:18:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's gay
[9:18:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i had kfc to today
[9:18:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: fuck bk that's bs
[9:19:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's bad market research
[9:19:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and business development
[9:19:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: oh yea
[9:19:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: duo shao qian?
[9:19:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yi ge meaL
[9:19:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 23rmb?
[9:19:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: bu cuo!
[9:19:56 AM] Tinsum Ching says: 28
[9:20:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: wait...
[9:20:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's hella $
[9:20:15 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's 4 bucks
[9:20:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: fuck
[9:20:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i dropped 48k on kfc
[9:20:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that's 3usd
[9:20:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: they hand you change with 2 hands
[9:20:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: zinger baby
[9:21:00 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:21:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: um dpeends
[9:21:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: if it's expensive shop
[9:21:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hell yea
[9:21:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but otherwise no
[9:21:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no kidding, i would agree
[9:21:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but only with that one inear the dorm
[9:21:52 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that was the only one i went to
[9:21:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:21:57 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: gook town
[9:22:14 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: never went to one here
[9:22:29 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea prob
[9:22:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i hear the backpack area is pretty dirty
[9:22:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: in fact very from what i hear
[9:23:12 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: where all the fucking foreigners are
[9:23:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: main district
[9:23:36 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and the backpack area is this triange too
[9:23:47 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: if you draw it out on the map
[9:24:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water here?
[9:24:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: um...hard to say
[9:24:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i think overall it's better here
[9:24:50 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the water in china is just bad
[9:24:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no other way to put it
[9:25:05 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you could drink rainwater here in the coutryside
[9:25:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not sure bout saigon
[9:25:16 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but it ain't too bad....
[9:25:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i don't know
[9:25:22 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hydro
[9:25:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: some coal
[9:25:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i forget
[9:25:37 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hella yea coal in china
[9:25:42 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: not the same degree
[9:26:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: china is just dirty, seriously
[9:26:21 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing is a horrible place to have the olypmics
[9:26:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea hk
[9:26:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: water where?
[9:26:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: shanghai might be ok for some of the games
[9:27:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: shandong?
[9:27:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:27:08 AM] Tinsum Ching says: shangtong
[9:27:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the yellow river runs off there
[9:27:25 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: that whole area is pretty banged up
[9:27:30 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: hope it all goes well
[9:27:56 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: otherwise china's reputation is going to get damaged bad
[9:28:04 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: wouldn't want to see that
[9:28:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:28:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: the nest is ugly man
[9:28:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: and it's not that big
[9:28:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: engineering standpoint, it might be impressive
[9:28:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: dbut i don't know better
[9:28:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so i say it's ugly
[9:29:06 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i ain't bashing
[9:29:08 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i love china
[9:29:28 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: government has done a good job and bad
[9:29:33 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: no gov't is perfect
[9:30:13 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ok i need to make a call to berkeley
[9:30:20 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: ignore what i say
[9:30:26 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i am using 2 voip
[9:30:31 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so you can still talk to me
[9:30:39 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but you will hear me talk to someone else
[9:30:43 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: opivy.com
[9:30:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: opivy
[9:30:48 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: poivy
[9:30:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it thinks i am in america
[9:31:03 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: so free calls to the us
[9:31:40 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: good question
[9:31:44 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: beijing is different
[9:31:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i like it at night in bejing more
[9:32:09 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: it's not crazy
[9:32:19 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i tihnk so
[9:32:24 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: but depends on where u r
[9:32:32 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: you gotta force yourself in
[9:32:38 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: talk to chinese people bout it
[9:32:55 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:32:59 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: take the subway
[9:33:10 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: midnight
[9:33:13 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: right
[9:33:46 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: gotta register your american number
[9:33:51 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: i did that a long time ago
[9:33:53 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: cell
[9:34:02 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: yea
[9:34:19 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: too cheap to buy a/c
[9:34:23 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 500 for a good one
[9:34:35 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: don't talk too loud
[9:34:45 AM] Kenny Nguyen says: 1 min

email response from brown boy

i am trying to get an lcd tv shipped over here. could be cheaper if you can take it here for me.... but i also have friends at fedex..so yea


you're crazy kenny, lol! i'm hoping to come in august carrying a 50 inch plasma screen! aren't they cheaper out that way?




you're crazy kenny, lol! i'm hoping to come in august carrying a 50 inch plasma screen! aren't they cheaper out that way?




suprisingly, no!

the thing is -- the concept of sale is pretty american. in europe they have legal day to have sales - to protect ma and pa i think. in east asia (not sure bout japan) they think expensive is good in terms of quality and satisfaction of being able to pay so much for something. i've been thinking about it and it's prob cause they live with so much cheap shitty stuff and so they really have much more experience with bad experiences coupled with low prices. they make a lot of stuff here and china, but a lotta stuff stays here, especially the shitty stuff...

it was interesting, i was at the local SOE superstore. a smaller wal-mart. i had to buy a multi power adapter. i ended up deciding to buy the most expensive one (120.000vnd --- 16k = 1usd) because i am concerned about shit burning and figured that in VN price really reflects quality....at least within that context.

levi jeans here can cost up to 4.000.000vnd or over 250usd, but the observed levis was made in china.....as an american, i figured that was too expensive and the price premium seemed to only be justified by the label and not so much the quality. in fact, i am wearing levi shorts made in cambo. bought from a meryvns' i think. man, i gotta start a blog or something. in fact, i will now. that way, i am scale sharing my experience here....so, please see....

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